0423 Jim Oakley

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Submitterʼs name
Jim Oakley
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About the submission

Please select the industry your submission is in relation to. If required, you may select multiple industries.
Professional, Scientific and Technical
Electricity, Gas, Water and Waste Services
Do you have a particular regional interest? If required, you may select multiple regions.



1. Do you consider that occupations need to be added to the Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL)?


2. Do you consider that occupations need to be added to the Short Term Skilled Occupation List (STSOL)?


3. Do you consider that occupations need to be removed from the Medium and Long Term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSSL) or the Short Term Skilled Occupation List (STSOL)?


What occupations should be removed from the MLTSSL or the STSOL?

233111 Chemical Engineer
233112 Materials Engineer
233211 Civil Engineer
233212 Geotechnical Engineer
233213 Quantity Surveyor
233214 Structural Engineer
233215 Transport Engineer
233311 Electrical Engineer
233411 Electronics Engineer
233511 Industrial Engineer
233512 Mechanical Engineer
233513 Production or Plant Engineer
233611 Mining Engineer (excluding Petroleum)
233612 Petroleum Engineer
233911 Aeronautical Engineer
233912 Agricultural Engineer
233913 Biomedical Engineer
233914 Engineering Technologist
233915 Environmental Engineer
233916 Naval Architect (Aus) \ Marine Designer (NZ)
233999 Engineering Professionals nec

Please outline the evidence or data that would support these occupations being removed from the MLTSSL or STSOL.

Tens of thousands of Australian engineers and recent migrants have been harmed because of the deliberate oversupply of the engineering labour market since 2012-13. The main mechanism that has been used to create the oversupply is the MLTSSL. Bringing in migrant engineers with no consideration for the disastrous state of the engineering labour market has entrenched unemployment, underemployment and displacement from the profession. The only way many engineers will get back into the profession is when engineering immigration is halted for an extended period.

In my attached submission I present a range of evidence demonstrating the huge oversupply of the engineering labour market. There is no available evidence to the contrary. Aspects of the engineering labour market I consider are:

- Over-representation in the skilled migration program
- Net supply and demand for engineers
- Internet vacancies
- Permanent and 457 visas
- Skilled migration index to vacancy index
- Applicants per vacancy
- View of Federal Government departments about engineering oversupply
- Graduate outcomes
- Age profile of the engineering workforce.

A key point is that the Government's 'stockpiling' approach to engineers is extremely harmful, and is helping to destroy the careers and livelihoods of those engineers who remain unemployed or displaced into other (usually lower-paying) occupations. The rational for the MLTSSL is flawed, and in my submission I explain why.
Do you have any supporting material for your submission?
Yes (see attachments)

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